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MISS JOAN
08-10-2005, 14:17
Real government in action! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:








This is an actual letter sent to Ryan DeVries by the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan.

(State's letter) SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County

Dear Mr. DeVries:


It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.




The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel.

All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2005.

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action.

We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.

Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

Sincerely,
David L. Price
District Representative, Land and Water Management Division


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Mr. DeVries’ response






Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County.



Dear Mr. Price,



Your certified letter dated 12/17/04 has been handed to me to respond in regarding to the above mentioned file.


I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan.
A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of nature’s building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project at any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.



As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.

My first dam question to you is:
(1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond beavers...or
(2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request?


If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through The Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.




I have several concerns. My first concern is... aren't the beavers entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation, so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing flooding is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond beavers alone rather than harass them and call them names.



If you want the stream "restored" to a free-flow condition please contact the beavers, but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter...they being unable to read English. In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their ‘unauthorized dams’ as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy Spring Pond.

If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources (beavers) and the environment (beaver dams). So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2005? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to harass them.

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is bears!



Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be prosecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are still going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (the bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your answering machine, I am sending this response to your office.

Thank You,
Ryan DeVries & The Dam Beavers

usmc26th
08-10-2005, 15:39
We won,t be home at 9:oo tonight to call ya, going to a bond fire at a friends house. to answer your ? It's 11OO WIS. TIME. CJ gets all screwed up trying to keep it straght

MISS JOAN
08-10-2005, 18:56
OK WE GOT AND ARE GTO THANK YOU :salute:

MISS JOAN
08-11-2005, 07:19
HEADING UP TO IRON MOUNTIN LATER. :salute:

MISS JOAN
08-11-2005, 15:04
JEST GOT HOME HAD A VERY GOOD VISET WITH 26TH AND CJ

:banana: :banana:

gyjohn
08-11-2005, 20:12
i saw some very pretty flowers Miss Joan did you grow them ??? looks real good.... hope that you had a great day today Miss Joan and James ooorraahhh and semper-fi:salute:

MISS JOAN
08-11-2005, 20:28
i saw some very pretty flowers Miss Joan did you grow them ??? looks real good.... hope that you had a great day today Miss Joan and James ooorraahhh and semper-fi:salute:
YES AND O'YES WE HAD A GRATE DAY IN MI. WITH 26TH. AND CJ..
SEMPER FI BRO. GIVE THE LADY COCO OUR BEST
OUR PRAY'S ARE OUT FOR HER.. :salute:

MISS JOAN
08-12-2005, 16:48
well is there LIFE OUT THERE TO DAY..
IF ANYONE JEST WANT'S TO TALK WE'R ALWAY HEAR.. :salute:

gyjohn
08-12-2005, 18:58
Miss Joan im here .... its going to be a great day ooorrahhhh sempers to you and James :salute:

CJ
08-12-2005, 19:49
Be-u-ti-ful weather, great day and yes...we had a good time with Miss Joan and James.

gyjohn
08-12-2005, 22:07
Be-u-ti-ful weather, great day and yes...we had a good time with Miss Joan and James.


thats great CJ and usmc26 ooorrahhh glad yall hooked up and had a great time sempers to yall :salute:

CJ
08-13-2005, 13:53
Thanks gyjohn! Just touching base today...hope y'all out there are doing well and enjoying the day and evening. It's a gorgeous day here today. Not too hot, not too cold and partly sunny. Couldn't ask for better.

gyjohn
08-13-2005, 19:50
we had a wonderful day today.. ate good home cooked food and exchanged gifts ... helped clean up and we all departed till next year ... it was well worth it ....ill do it from now on i had a real good time:banana:

MISS JOAN
08-23-2005, 11:09
WELL IT'S BEEN ALONG TIME :banghead: :banghead:
BUT WE HOPE YOU ARE ARE FINE ..
SUNDAY WE WENT TO MY SISTER'S 80 TH. BIRTHDAY PARTY ..
NOW THAT WAS FUN... :salute:

usmc26th
08-23-2005, 13:19
I still say that can't possibly be Jim. Too young to be that old man! :fingerwav :fingerwav
We have been having a good time too. At the neighbors for bonfire get-to-gethers and to Welcomeing home a new Marine Boot and sending off a Army recruit Picnic and just enjoying what is left of summer. It ends fast here. Would you believe that some of our trees are turning already? Seriously...they really are!

MISS JOAN
08-23-2005, 13:57
I still say that can't possibly be Jim. Too young to be that old man! :fingerwav :fingerwav
We have been having a good time too. At the neighbors for bonfire get-to-gethers and to Welcomeing home a new Marine Boot and sending off a Army recruit Picnic and just enjoying what is left of summer. It ends fast here. Would you believe that some of our trees are turning already? Seriously...they really are!
WELL HOW DID IT GO AT V.A?????
DID YA GET ANY SLEEP???
YES BEFOR WE KNOW IT SUMMER WILL BE OVER DAM I NEED ABOUT 6 MORE MONTH'S YET. :thumbdown :thumbdown WE WENT TO MY OLDEST SISTER 80TH. birthday party last sunday..
had a real GOOD TIME...NICE LOOKING LAD'S THERE.. WE WISH THEM GOOD LUCK...
SO THAT'S ALL THE NEWS FROM OUR HOME... :salute: :salute:
NEXT

MISS JOAN
08-24-2005, 08:25
O'WELL WE ARE OUTTA OF HEAR LATER.. :salute:

CJ
08-24-2005, 15:11
Looks like quite a nice get-to-gether for your sister. Are you gonna drive that car over to our place? We need it!
Summers are always too short but...we do like it here and the good points (solitude and peacefullness) are worth it...:banghead: I think. Yeah, it's worth it.
Out west it may be more dramatic in the Rockies, etc, and South, the Smokies are higher but there are things here that none of those places have. You have to live here to realize just how unique it is here.
Did you watch that clip Bones sent by email? It was sooooofunny (and true).:banana: :banana:

MISS JOAN
08-25-2005, 13:29
:salute:[by o'boot]
MY DAD AND ME..... :banana: :salute:

MISS JOAN
08-26-2005, 09:58
WELL I KNOW SOME ONE IS OUT THERE
PAINTING BY O'BOOT'S BROTHER...

Chuck
08-26-2005, 10:08
Miss Joan, CJ, and O'Boot..

I just returned from my vacation in Austria, Germany, and Holland... I took loads of photos (large enough so that they can be cropped).. I'm going to be putting them on CD.. Lots of photos of churches and old castles.

I've miss placed your snail mail addresses when I upgraded to my new computer. I would would like a copy of the CD I will send it to you if you PM me your addresses again.

Here are some samples I have greatly reduced in size so that they would fit here on the forums.

Chuck
08-26-2005, 10:19
I know that you know about the Nurnberg trials in Germany after the end of WWII.. Here is a photo taken last week inside that court room... Nurnberg, Germany - Room 600

MISS JOAN
08-26-2005, 10:27
I know that you know about the Nurnberg trials in Germany after the end of WWII.. Here is a photo taken last week inside that court room... Nurnberg, Germany - Room 600
[by o'boot]
YES I KNOW ABOUT THAT
I WAS WITH A BATY.3RD. ARMER..94TH FILED ARTY.
IN FRUTH , GERMANY ...ABOUT 2 MILE'S OUT SIDE OF THERE...THANK YOU FOR YOUR POST ..

Chuck
08-26-2005, 10:43
Here are a few more photos taken on the trip. The photo of the Bishop was taken in Cologne the day after the Pope was there. I don't know who he is. I cropped it from one of the many photos taken. We took several photos of Bishops there at the church where the Pope gave his mass on Sunday the day before we arrived.

CJ
08-26-2005, 14:50
James....you sure do look like your dad. Face alittle fuller but otherwise, the spittin' image.

Chuck, a group of really nice phots. Yes, I will be sending you my address PM. Those castles and the architecture....amazing to those of us that have never been there. Our one son has but not us. Thank you for posting these. CJ